US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
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2009-04-01 11:42:11
US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
The American Clean Energy and Security Act 2009 discussion draft is the first such set of concrete nationwide measures to help the US position itself as a key world player in fighting climate change. Although the 2038 scheduled phase down to 15% for HFCs is weak, some progress is being made in terms of energy efficiency.

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2009-04-01 21:10:38
RE: US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
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Richard Manning
now it gets interesting?
2009-04-02 14:22:01
RE: US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
There is only one way and it is to go for natural refrigerants - no doubt.
2009-04-02 20:44:45
RE: US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
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Ray Hicks
Great proposal but doomed. Steps on way to much sacred groung that won't yeild without a blood fight. I'll be suprised if it makes through committee. Just wait for the posturing and grandstanding about the science and economics by both sides. It might have a better chance if some kind sole would introduce something similar in the senate.
2009-04-03 13:38:37
RE: US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
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R744.com Team
Dear Readers,

We have had several comments about this article regarding the Phase Out/ Phase Down issue with regard to HFCs. We apologise for the confusion and would like to add the following clarification.

According to the draft (which will be subject to change over the coming months), HFCs will be phased-down by about 3% per year starting in 2012 until 2038 (AND not phased-out). This phase-down would be based on the CO2-equivalent of US annual HFC consumption averaged over 2004, 2005 and 2006, and would restrict production, import and use in manufactured
goods. Overall, the bill will eventually result in an 85% reduction in the CO2-eq of HFCs consumed, and would require a drastic cut in use of high GWP HFCs, such as R134a.

We would also recommend that you read page 492 of the draft attached to this article.

Let us know if you require further information.

Regards

Your R744.com Team
2009-04-07 10:19:05
RE: US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
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Anonymous
What is the difference between phase-down and phase-out ?
2009-04-07 14:29:41
RE: US Clean Energy draft: a first step to phase down HFCs
Good question. Basically Phase out means that by a certain date there will be no more of a certain HFC based refrigerant whereas Phase Down is another way of letting DuPont and Honeywell sell their proposed low GWP refrigerants, as long as the overall amount for HFCs goes down.

great lobbying by them.

marc


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