GREEN-MAC LCCP finds R744 to perform best
R744.com - 2009-07-07
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CO2 outperforms both R134a and HFO-1234yf in Mobile Air Conditioning in most climate conditions, latest calculations have shown. This is in contrast to claims that CO2 (R744) would lead to a worse life cycle climate performance than the chemicals. The GREEN-MAC LCCP model, if continued, is set to take into account these real-life data.
GREEN-MAC LCCP finds R744 to perform best The natural refrigerant CO2 (R744) will not only lead to the lowest greenhouse gas emissions in Mobile Air Conditioning (MAC) in a European scenario, but will also outperform current and proposed refrigerants at the global scale. This is the result after real-life data for CO2 had been entered into the latest agreed version of the GREEN-MAC LCCP model – a tool to calculate the life cycle climate performance of refrigerants in different world regions.

In the second version of the Alternative Refrigerant Cooperative Research Program (ARCRP), CO2 leads to considerably lower emissions at relevant ambient temperatures below 35°C. Above this threshold, R134a is performing slightly better. Depending on the manufacturer and system used – from small to big, from simple system layout to complex ones - this point will range from temperatures in the high 20°C degrees to above 40°C, Frank Wolf, Vice President at Obrist Engineering, confirms.

Lack of transparency raises doubt

Already last year, members of the working group had raised doubts about the credibility of the tool after presentations had mostly shown R744 to perform less efficiently than R134a and later 1234yf. The tool’s complexity, and some might say its lack of transparency, had made it difficult to track how parameters were used to obtain certain results. To the knowledge of both Frank Wolf and Dr. Armin Hafner, Senior Scientist at SINTEF, the applied spreadsheets have never been shown to the public, with no independent 3rd party evaluation having taken place. Lately, experts had pointed to misleading and biased energy efficiency factors for 1234yf and badly engineered CO2 systems as the cause for a surprisingly wide gap between the chemical and the natural refrigerant.

More importantly still, direct emissions scenarios assumed for R134a under the GREEN-MAC LCCP are not congruent with international findings. Already the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and most recently a much-debated report from the Netherlands Environmental Agency about the devastating impact of R134a on climate change over the next decades, had made clear that the danger from HFC direct emissions from MAC must not be understated. The LCCP tool assumes a much lower percentage of HFC-134a leakage in different world regions, taking as a reference new, leak-tighter systems than previously used. As the attached slides show, however, 60% of all R134a produced since 1990 has already been released to the atmosphere, and 80% of all R22 since 1940.

New LCCP tool to account for real-life results

Having so far only incorporated bench tests, the LCCP is now going to accommodate vehicle test results. Over the last years, critics of the model had requested to open the model for fuel over consumption data from real-life testing, collected by carmakers and suppliers. The benefit of avoiding actually driving cycles around the world by replacing them with laboratory simulations had soon turned into the disadvantage of not taking into account experiences gained in the field. The danger that carmakers would use the GREEN-MAC LCCP as an unlimited reference without investing in real-life testing is now meant to be reduced, as in early 2009 working group members agreed to work on a beta version to integrate vehicle A/C results.

Unknown future for GREEN-MAC LCCP


Despite the time already invested in establishing a trustworthy tool and SAE Standard to model the life cycle performance of refrigerants worldwide, further work on the GREEN MAC LCCP model and the integration of real-life testing is now under threat of being significantly delayed, as General Motors struggles with reorganisation under the ongoing bankruptcy process. Still no news have emerged of how the LCCP activity will be conducted in the future and who would lead it.

About the model

The GREEN-MAC-LCCP was developed by General Motors to compare the life cycle climate performance (LCCP) of Mobile Air Conditioning (MAC). It is a comprehensive model integrating a wide set of parameters to calculate the environmental impact of MAC systems and different refrigerants, taking account both direct and indirect emissions over a car’s life cycle. Direct emissions occur during the production of the MAC system and the refrigerant, their transfer to OEMs, refrigerant losses when charging the system and leakage over a car’s lifetime. Refrigerant might also be released in case of a front end accident, and at a car’s end of life, when the system is recycled and the refrigerant is partly recovered. On the other hand, the model calculates indirect emissions (fuel over-consumption) due to increased work of the engine to run the air conditioning.
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2009-07-10 07:38:14 - Klaas Visser
Mr Crunchard, thank you very much for providing additional information. I confess I am not an expert on refrigerant emissions. Some of the substances you refer to I have never heard of.

In my comment I was simply reacting to the two OBRIST engineering slides. The source of the material on the slides is given as: AFEAS Alternative Fluorocarbons Acceptability Study 2007. Please see above referred pdf Production & Release of R134a and R22 showing the two Obrist Engineering slides.

The R134a slide states unequivocally that in the year 2005 the production of R134a amounted to about 2000 million tonnes of equivalent CO2 emissions, which equates to about 20% of all USA emissions, ie about 7% of all global warming emisions. The R134a slide also shows that in 2005 the amount of R134a escaping into the environment amounted to about 1250 tonnes CO2e or about 4% of all Global Warming Impact on ths fragile globe. This latter amount is a liitle bit more than the quantity produced in2001. Hence my conclusion that the overall global R134a leakage rate is about 25% per annum. This holds reasonably well since about 1994, four years after R134a was first produced.

The same source was used to develop the situation for R22, where the time interval between the year of production and the replacement of that production is about 6 years, implying a leakage rate of about 17%. What is really staggering in the case of R22 is that since being concocted first in 1944, about 59 Giga tonnes CO2e had been produced by the end of 2004. 70% of that has been produced from the year 1990 onwards in the full knowledge of the Kyoto Protocol provisions putting R22 on notice of a phase out, the final date of which has been brought forward a number of times. 80% R22 that has ever been produced has escaped into the atmosphere.

I wonder what the situation has been since 2004 for R22 and 2005 for R134a. And is there any information available on all the other chemical refrigerants like the 400 and 500 series? Perhaps the share prices of the chemical companies manufacturing these destructive substances will tell the story eloquently.

My broader observation is this. When one considers past environmental and public health disasters with chemicals like DTD, PCB's, Agent Orange, Mercury, arsenic etc. the question is : Will we never learn?

Regrettably I can come to only one conclusion and that is that all chemical refrigerants including HFC' s should be banned under the Montreal Protocol or a similar mechanism with a short phase out time. Ideally this should happen later this year at the Copenhagen meeting. To those who resist this call, because they believe their livelyhood or inverstments are at stake, I say the following:

"A humanity that is alive builds for a good future. The outright banning of HFC's and chemical refrigerants of any type means required accelerated development of proven natural substances like Ammonia, Carbon Dioxide and Hydrocarbons. This will mean tremendous development and business opportunities for everybody involved in the manufacture, design, supply, delivery, installation, testing, commissioning, servicing and - last but certainly not least - training and education at all levels. There is a huge replacement market out there to start with!"

Mr Crunchard, I hope my reply satisfies you. Now I must let my work start interfering with my hobbies.

With best wishes and kind regards

Yours sincerely

Klaas Visser.


2009-07-09 21:29:28 - Jürgen Wertenbach
Dear Armin,

because the synthetic fluid doesn't have a direct contribution, and if the indirect effect of the alternatives are quite similar, than the total effect is similar.

Jürgen
2009-07-09 10:54:40 - Armin Hafner
Dear Jürgen,
we don't have new data, we are just pointing out that when applying the ARCRP II data in the current LCCP tool, the result is that R744 performs better, globally.
Experimental investigations of the mentioned alternative fluid, as presented by it's manufactuers and OEM's, show 'System perfromance very similar to HFC-134a', i.e. similar fuel consumptions.

The question is then, how can it be that there are significant LCCP differences (in disfavour for R744) when these new fluids are compared with R744 data?

a good summer to all of you, and please join the debate

Armin
2009-07-08 16:54:45 - j Wertenbach
Dear Armin,

in this case if you cannot provide new data, that witness your statement , your information in that article is misleading and should be corrected to reduce it to a sound information content.

Schade !

Have a good summer
Jürgen



2009-07-08 15:53:15 - Frans Grunchard
Dear Mr Visser

You are confusing yearly emissions and total quantities in the atmosphere. Regarding the latter I advise you to look at the official US's NOAA ANNUAL GREENHOUSE GAS INDEX (AGGI) (sorry but the link is not allowed : search "NOAA AGGI")

They show that five long-lived greenhouse gases (NO HFC included) contribute 97% to radiative climate forcing, while HFCs are only a part of the remaining 3 % caused by what they call "10 minor long-lived halogen gases including CFC-113, CCl4, CH3CCl3, HCFCs 22, 141b and 142b, HFC134a, SF6, and halons 1211 and 1301"
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